all3n ha scritto: Posso concordare su tutto, ma dire che Winslow è "solo" forte mi pare riduttivo.
Chellen Uinslò Giunior è solo un coglioneÂ

all3n ha scritto: Posso concordare su tutto, ma dire che Winslow è "solo" forte mi pare riduttivo.
Evidentemente perchè non hai mai visto giocare Winslow. Mettiamo K2 senza incidente e senza problemi fisici nell'attacco di San Diego e portiamo Gates a giocare con una spalla lussata e un ginocchio destro ormai da rottamare a Cleveland senza Chudzinski, poi ne riparliamo.PatriotsForever ha scritto: OK, lo distinguevo da Edwards... certo per me il mostro è Gates, Gonzales, Edwards ha dimostrato che può essere all'altezza, spero per lui che possa continuare...
Gates puoi portarlo a Cleveland anche senza spalla lussata e con il ginocchio destro perfettamente funzionante e non sono sicuro che farebbe meglio di Kellen. Poi vabbè, su che basi uno dice che Gates è un mostro, e Kellen no? Per partito preso o ci sono delle ragioni?TheFan17 ha scritto: Evidentemente perchè non hai mai visto giocare Winslow. Mettiamo K2 senza incidente e senza problemi fisici nell'attacco di San Diego e portiamo Gates a giocare con una spalla lussata e un ginocchio destro ormai da rottamare a Cleveland senza Chudzinski, poi ne riparliamo.
mvp18 ha scritto: K2 è un fenomeno:Â
Su Wayne mi andava di postare questo che è sempre bello da vedere :D
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TheFan17 ha scritto: Evidentemente perchè non hai mai visto giocare Winslow. Mettiamo K2 senza incidente e senza problemi fisici nell'attacco di San Diego e portiamo Gates a giocare con una spalla lussata e un ginocchio destro ormai da rottamare a Cleveland senza Chudzinski, poi ne riparliamo.
Con Williams e Rogers arriviamo a spendere quasi $100 M solo nella DL. Rogers ha firmato un contratto di 6 anni a $42 M di cui 20 garantiti, diventando l'interno più pagato della lega. Il precendente contratto prevedeva $19,5 M nei prossimi 3 anni ma è stato ritoccato a $23 M.Whatarush ha scritto: Ha aggiunto due caterpillar a una difesa che contro le corse era molto sospetta.
Savage ran over two scenarios he'd discussed Saturday night and threw out another he envisioned for late Sunday morning. Director of player personnel T.J. McCreight updated the room on two phone calls he'd made. They ran through some names they'd targeted at Pick 122, the first pick the Browns will have barring a trade.
The picks then started coming fast. The Browns watched as two cornerbacks were selected in the first five picks of Round Three, and two more were drafted in the following 10. There were no real surprises.
Savage scanned his chart listing the names and contact numbers for each of the league's 31 other draft rooms. The work - and the day - is just beginning.
10:34 - Between phone calls, some of which he initiated and others he answered, Phil Savage turned to T.J. McCreight and asked if there was any update on a potential trade with Kansas City.
His answer was ‘no', the third such ‘no' Savage had received in the preceding 10 minutes.
The Browns kept trying, though, making calls, projecting scenarios and adjusting names of players they desired as others were picked by other teams. The one name that kept coming up, though, whether they were talking about inside linebackers, outside linebackers, cornerbacks or tight ends, was UNLV linebacker Beau Bell.
11:04- After about 30 minutes of tossing names and watching picks, McCreight encouraged Savage to make a trade into the late 90's and get Bell.
Savage started talking aloud but to himself, listing Bell's traits and how he might fit with the Browns. National Scout Daniel Jeremiah chimed in from across the table, telling Savage he didn't envision Bell making it past the top of the fourth round.
"I went to his (campus) workout," Jeremiah said. "Fifteen teams sent their linebacker coaches to see him. That's 15 teams we have to think are going to draft him."
Jeremiah continued, reminding the room that Bell was the preferred choice of Browns special teams coach Ted Daisher.
"Let's be honest," McCreight said. "We're going to be kicking ourselves if we lose Beau Bell."
12:06 p.m. - Bell had finished talking with Crennel and Savage. That's when Daisher appeared in the draft room and said, "I owe everyone in this room a high five. Heck of a job, guys. One heck of a job."
12:15 - The Browns worked until noon to secure the trade that brought them Beau Bell.
Fifteen minutes later, Phil Savage was back on the phone and two new, interested observers were in the draft room.
Standing behind Savage were offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski and quarterbacks coach Rip Scherer. No, the Browns weren't taking another quarterback.
But they were about to make a trade with Dallas that ended with Savage pumping his fist, just like last year.
It didn't happen right away, but what had been a list of five players (besides Bell) the Browns targeted as fourth-round guys they'd like to see in orange helmets was down to one, Missouri tight end Martin Rucker.
In the Bell trade, the Browns gave up picks 122 and 155. By 12:20, they'd made another trade with the Cowboys - maybe T.J. McCreight was right, maybe Savage does love Jerry Jones.
At the very least, they're great friends on the last weekend in April. By 12:22, Savage was pumping his fist and Romeo Crennel was welcoming Martin Rucker to the Browns.
2:47 - Savage asked, "Can Ahtyba Rubin make this team?" He gets a unanimous yes in response. MacCracken continues to run through trade scenarios as the Browns figure a way to get both Hubbard and the Iowa State nose tackle.
From national scout Daniel Jeremiah: "This Hubbard is tough as heck. He can play special teams right away at very least."
From McCreight: "Go back to his junior year in the bowl game against Chris Houston, who went in the first round last year. They ran the ball, he had to block and he fought every play. He really battled a guy who went in the first round."
MacCracken announces the Cowboys are four picks away from being on the clock and will call the Browns to talk trade. They certainly know the number.
But that trade didn't work. Ditto for several other attempts. Finally, the Eagles agreed to trade the Browns Pick 191 for next year's fifth-rounder.
The Browns will pick back-to-back, at 190 and 191, and select Hubbard and Rubin
5:37 - With the Browns' final pick approaching, Phil Savage fielded two phone calls from teams looking to acquire the pick.
He told them thanks, but no thanks.
The Browns had their man. They'd actually been targeting Alex Hall of Division II St. Augustine's College for hours; since the fourth round, he'd been the highest-remaining outside linebacker on their board.
They were able to make two sixth-round selections and still be in position to get Hall in the seventh.
Savage called Hall and played it cool, asking him if he'd been getting a lot of calls from teams interested in signing him after the draft as a free agent
Hall said he'd taken eight such calls in the preceding 30 minutes.
That's when Savage told him, "Well, we're going to draft you here in about five minutes."
"You're kidding," was his response.
Nope. Savage said Hall then yelled to his family, "Hey, Cleveland is going to pick me."
Much hysteria ensued.
Savage passed the phone to Romeo Crennel, then relayed instructions to New York not to turn the card into closer to ESPN coming out of commercial.
"Good for him," Savage said. "St. Aug's gets on the football map."
"I am extremely grateful to Randy Lerner and the Browns' organization for giving me an opportunity as a first time GM back in January 2005 and now to continue with this extension through the 2012 season," Savage said."We have worked very hard to turn the Browns around, on and off the field, and our team is looking forward to the 2008 season. From a personal standpoint, I want to also thank the many Browns' fans who have been so supportive during my time here."
TheFan17 ha scritto: Savage estende fino al 2012.
1. Drafting Joe Thomas and Brady Quinn in 2007
Grossi's take: Besides fortifying the offensive line and quarterback positions for several years, the Thomas selection and trade for Quinn created a long-lost buzz about the Browns locally and put them back on the map nationally. Savage has been on a roll ever since.
2. Signing Josh Cribbs as an undrafted free agent in 2005
Grossi's take: Could anyone have envisioned the former Kent State running quarterback evolving into a Pro Bowl returner and impactful special teams performer? He's a unique player.
3. Hiring Rob Chudzinski as offensive coordinator in 2007
Grossi's take: The dynamics of the whole franchise changed when the offense was brought into the 21st century by Chudzinski.
4. Signing Eric Steinbach and Jamal Lewis as a free agents in 2007
Grossi's take: Not only did they rob two division rivals of integral starting players, they became the first Browns acquisitions in the free agent era to have immediate and lasting impacts on the team.
5. Trading for Hank Fraley in 2006
Grossi's take: One of Savage's least-heralded but most meaningful trades. Fraley rescued the center position after the devastating injury to LeCharles Bentley and became a team leader and anchor of the line in his second year.
TheFan17 ha scritto:
Detto questo, con la DL quasi nuova e alcuni punti interrogativi fra LB e secondarie, questa squadra vive e muore con Derek Anderson. Period.
saintsaji ha scritto: questa però nn l'ho capita,,,
intendi dire che Anderson è la croce e delizia dei BROWNS oppure intendi dire che per come si muovono le cose,ANDERSON è un perno troppo importante per il futuro dei BROWNS?
Esatto, proprio così. Quest'anno il calendario sarà durissimo, per cui se Anderson inzierà la stagione come ha finito quella passata... addio sogni di gloria.Whatarush ha scritto: intende dire che l'attacco è il reparto che decide l'esito delle partite...la difesa resta ancora, sulla carta, quello che non deve perderle
Grazie boss!Âchinasky ha scritto: Auguri a TheFan!Â