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Messaggio da T-wolves » 16/11/2020, 20:54

Tier 1 players are potential NBA superstars. Players with the potential to be franchise type prospects and make multiple All-NBA teams in their career. Tier 2 players are potential NBA All-Stars. Players with the potential to be the best player on their team and to make at least one All-Star team in their career. Tier 3 players project as high level NBA starters. Players with the potential to spend most of their career as a starter on a playoff caliber team. Tier 4 players are potential NBA starters and rotation players.  They may start at some point in their careers, but the most likely role for them is as an impact player coming off the bench. Tier 5 players are deep rotation players. They are players eight through 10 in a NBA depth chart. Tier 6 players are bench players. They are 11 and 12th men on a NBA roster who may spend significant time in the G league. So what do the tiers look like this year? After talking to several GMs and scouts whose teams employ this system, here is how the tiers look this year.

TIER 1 – POTENTIAL SUPERSTARS
NONE

TIER 2 – POTENTIAL ALL-STARS
LaMelo Ball, Anthony Edwards, James Wiseman

TIER 3 – HIGH LEVEL STARTERS
Deni Avdija, Tyrese Haliburton, Killian Hayes, Onyeka Okongwu, Isaac Okoro, Obi Toppin, Devin Vassell, Patrick Williams

TIER 4 – POTENTIAL STARTER/ROTATION PLAYER
Precious Achiuwa, Saddiq Bey, Leandro Bolmaro, RJ Hampton, Kira Lewis, Tyrese Maxey, Jaden McDaniels, Aaron Nesmith, Alekej Pokusevski, Jalen Smith, Tyrell Terry

TIER 5 – DEEP ROTATION PLAYERS
Cole Anthony, Udoka Azubuike, Desmond Bane, Tyler Bey, Vernon Carey Jr, Devon Dotson, Malachi Flynn, Josh Green, Tre Jones, Theo Maledon, Zeke Nnaji, Daniel Oturu, Payton Pritchard, Jahmi’us Ramsey, Paul Reed, Xavier Tillman, Isaiah Stewart, Robert Woodward

TIER 6 – SO YOU’RE SAYING THEY’VE GOT A CHANCE
Ty-Shon Alexander, Elijah Hughes, Isaiah Joe, Nico Mannion, Sam Merrill, Jordan Nwora, Jay Scrubb, Cassius Winston

Ball is by far the most polarizing prospect here. He received the most Tier 1 votes of the group but also the most Tier 3 votes and one Tier 4 vote. Wiseman and Edwards also received a small number of Tier 1 votes and a significant number of Tier 3 votes, but not enough to move them out of Tier 2. Toppin and Williams were the only players in this group to get a Tier 2 vote.  All of the rest of their votes were Tier 3. Haliburton and Okongwu both received unanimous votes as Tier 3 prospects. Hayes, Okoro and Vassell all received a small number of Tier 4 votes. Nesmith, Bey, Lewis, McDaniels and Pokusevski were the only five players to receive a limited number of Tier 3 votes and four of these five players did not receive any Tier 5 votes. Achiuwa, Bolmaro, Hampton, McDaniels, Smith and Terry all received a significant number of Tier 5 votes, but not enough to drop them into that tier. Anthony, Bane, Green and Maledon were right on the cusp of making Tier 4. Azubuike, Jones, Oturu, Pritchard, Reed and Woodward received Tier 6 votes. Mannion, Alexander and Winston, got some Tier 5 votes. Two teams mentioned Scrubb as a potential first round pick, and one team had him in Tier 4 and another in Tier 5.

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Re: Draft 2020 rooting for Nico

Messaggio da aeroplane_flies_high » 16/11/2020, 23:46

Pare che Patrick Williams possa andare addirittura alla 4

fino a qualche mese fa era un fine primo giro... chiaramente il "vincitore" del draft process di quest'anno

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Re: Draft 2020 rooting for Nico

Messaggio da Mich » 17/11/2020, 16:07

aeroplane_flies_high ha scritto: 16/11/2020, 23:46 Pare che Patrick Williams possa andare addirittura alla 4

fino a qualche mese fa era un fine primo giro... chiaramente il "vincitore" del draft process di quest'anno

Sto leggendo anche io che possa esserci interesse concreto dei Bulls. Chi ne sa dire di più sul giocatore?

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Messaggio da T-wolves » 17/11/2020, 16:38

Williams è per me il più grande boom or bust della lottery. Potenzialmente è un difensore della madonna, tiratore e playmaker, ma allo stato attuale non è nulla di tutto questo se non per brevissimi lampi. Fisico e atletismo ci sono.

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- Forward (più PF che non SF)
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- Deve aggiustare il tiro, ma è fattibile
Troppo giovane e ha giocato troppo poco per me per capire cosa sia per quello che mi riguarda

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Messaggio da casper-21 » 18/11/2020, 13:03

All'1 si collegano o all'1 iniziano a pickare che non mi ricordo mai?

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Messaggio da Brian_di_Nazareth » 18/11/2020, 13:55

casper-21 ha scritto: 18/11/2020, 13:03 All'1 si collegano o all'1 iniziano a pickare che non mi ricordo mai?

Di solito si collegano all'una, poi ci sono i nani, le ballerine, la donna barbuta etc...alla fine si inizia :biggrin:
Quest'anno però stanno tutti in streaming mi pare....perciò la intro sarà più breve.

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Messaggio da Radiofreccia » 18/11/2020, 14:04

Solitamente prima dell'1.30 non si inizia mai, se non ricordo male.
Magari quest'anno che è tutto in streaming la smettono di perdere inutilmente tempo.

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Ho letto di feedback molto negativi su LaMelo Ball dai media che l'hanno intervistato ieri.
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Messaggio da T-wolves » 18/11/2020, 14:26

Su Sky mi pare che lo danno dalle 2.00 in avanti, quindi credo che tutto quello prima sia pre-show. 

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Messaggio da Brian_di_Nazareth » 18/11/2020, 14:29

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Re: Draft 2020 rooting for Nico

Messaggio da aeroplane_flies_high » 18/11/2020, 14:38

Brian_di_Nazareth ha scritto: 18/11/2020, 13:55
casper-21 ha scritto: 18/11/2020, 13:03 All'1 si collegano o all'1 iniziano a pickare che non mi ricordo mai?

Di solito si collegano all'una, poi ci sono i nani, le ballerine, la donna barbuta etc...alla fine si inizia :biggrin:
Quest'anno però stanno tutti in streaming mi pare....perciò la intro sarà più breve.

quest'anno vestirà la 13, ma non si sa di che squadra :laughing:

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Messaggio da lebronpepps » 18/11/2020, 15:29


intanto qualche squadra che sa di non poter arrivare ad Okongwu prova a mettere in giro qualche voce

Ainge, sei tu? :forza:

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Messaggio da Morau » 18/11/2020, 15:29

quest'anno sarebbe divertente rifare il mock. giochino ormai morto ma che quest'anno ha il sapore del lotto.
i miei pupilli sono hayes, lewis, nesmith, okongwu mentre i giocatori di culto da diversi anni ma su cui spero poco, se non un posto in rotazione, sono winston e bey. wiseman e edwards sembrano quelli con maggior potenziale da star. mentre ball, avdija, anthony e toppin imho se scelti in lottery rischiano fortemente di essere dei bust. definizione che quest'anno va comunque messa in relazione con lo scarso talento generale.

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Messaggio da Brian_di_Nazareth » 18/11/2020, 15:35

lebronpepps ha scritto: 18/11/2020, 15:29
intanto qualche squadra che sa di non poter arrivare ad Okongwu prova a mettere in giro qualche voce

Ainge, sei tu? :forza:

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Edwards’ Draft Range: Edwards is seen as likely to go somewhere in the top-three picks.

Wiseman’s Draft Range: Wiseman is seen as likely to end up in the top-three.  It would be a significant surprise if he got past Charlotte.

Ball’s Draft Range: Honestly, just as I wrote in January when Ball shut it down, his draft range remains wider than expected. I think No. 1 is still in the mix for the right trade. Also, I would say he could drop as far as No. 7 and it wouldn’t be totally stunning. I don’t think that’ll happen, as I find it likely a team would trade up to get him before then. I also think Chicago would take a good, hard look at No. 4.

Avdija’s Draft Range: It would be a surprise if Avdija got below No. 5, as I’ll outline below.

Toppin’s Draft Range: I think it would be relatively surprising if he got beyond No. 8 or so.

Haliburton’s Draft Range: Another guy where I think it would be surprising if he got beyond pick No. 8 or so.

Williams’ Draft Range: Given how prevalent the Pistons’ rumor is for Williams, it wouldn’t be totally stunning to see someone try to jump the Pistons to get him if they’re really enamored. At this point, I think I’d be surprised if he got beyond No. 11.

Okoro’s Draft Range: From No. 5 or so down to No. 12. Okoro could drop a bit further than expected.

Okongwu’s Draft Range: It starts at No. 3, and I can’t imagine him getting outside of the lottery, even with the concerns on bigs and their positional value.

Vassell’s Draft Range: As early as the mid-lottery, and as late as the post-lottery teens. Teams do have some concerns about Vassell’s offensive game that could push him down further than expected.

Bey’s Draft Range: Bey should hear his name called as early as No. 10, and will be in the mix for a lot of picks such as 11, 12, and 13. The floor would likely be No. 19 with Brooklyn. 

Hayes’ Draft Range: Starts somewhere in the mid-lottery, and extends just below the end of the lottery. I also wouldn’t be stunned to see a team move up the board for Hayes to get him off the board if he starts to fall below pick No. 8.

Lewis’ Draft Range: Starts in the mid-lottery and stretches down to about 13.

Hampton’s Draft Range: Starts in the latter-third of the lottery with some teams who could look to take an upside swing, and extends down into the very early 20s.

Maxey’s Draft Range: It starts somewhere in the early teens in the lottery, and I’d be surprised if he got past No. 20.

Pokusevski’s Draft Range: I think it probably starts in the early teens, and goes down through Denver at No. 22 given how well they do scouting internationally and how much they like to take swings for the fences on prospects. A few teams like Sacramento, San Antonio and Dallas in-between also make sense.

Achiuwa’s Draft Range: Fairly wide. I’ve heard him connected all the way up at No. 9 with the Wizards and the Suns at 10, so that would likely be the start of the range. There are some sources who think who could be on the board into the 20s, though. Such is life for a big man who NBA teams have skill questions about.

Green’s Draft Range: Somewhere 14 to 25 or so.

Nesmith’s Draft Range: Starts here, and he’ll be in the mix for nearly every team all the way down to No. 19. It would be a surprise to see him get beyond the Nets, given that they have a real need for low-usage movement shooters.

Bane’s Draft Range: I would venture it’s somewhere between No. 18 and No. 30. It would be surprising at this stage to see him get out of the first round.

Terry’s Draft Range: A touch wider, but I think I’m at the point where I’d be surprised if he got out of the first round. Somewhere from No. 15 to No. 28 let’s call it, as that second Thunder pick seems like a great trade opportunity as well as a great chance for them to take an upside swing.

Smith Draft Range: Somewhere between the post-lottery teens and the end of the first round. I think Smith is one big that I’d be surprised if he escaped Round One (even though I don’t have that kind of grade on him). I also got floated a singular note from an opposing team that the Pistons could take a look at him at No. 7 if Patrick Williams is off the board by the time they pick.

McDaniels Draft Range: Pretty wide. I’d say this is about the start. So early teens all the way down through about No. 23. That means I see this as the low point right now. Having said that, teams will be surprised if he’s on the board past No. 20.

Stewart’s Draft Range: A bit wider here. Could go as early as the late teens, or could be on the board into the early second round. Teams really like him and think he’ll play in the league for a long time, they just worry about whether or not he’ll do so at a difference-making level.

Maledon’s Draft Range: I don’t think I would 100 percent rule out San Antonio stunning everyone and taking him at No. 11 given the connection to ASVEL, the team Tony Parker owns. But more than likely, it’s somewhere between 18 and 35.

Bolmaro’s Draft Range: Around 18 to 35

Anthony’s Draft Range: Early teens to early second round. This is the widest range in the class. Anthony is all over the board for teams in a really substantial way as maybe the most polarizing player in the draft.

Woodard’s Draft Range: Let’s say somewhere from the 20s on through to No. 40. It would be a surprise if he got beyond that.

Nnaji’s Draft Range: This is where we start getting pretty speculative with the bigs. I’d say Nnaji’s range starts around pick 20, and goes all the way down through pick No. 40. The range for all of the big men in this draft is quite wide.

Tillman’s Draft Range: Mid-20s through even to the mid-40s. Teams have differing opinions on Tillman due to his general lack of explosiveness and size for a big.

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Re: Draft 2020 rooting for Nico

Messaggio da casper-21 » 18/11/2020, 16:42

I miei tre giocatori preferiti di sto draft comunque sono Cassius Stanley, Isaac Okoro e Precious Achiuwa.
Poi c'è Tyrese Maxey su cui scommetterei ma non al 100%.

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